Morpheus and Phitchermen,
I forgot to thank you guys. You made this thread so much enlightening and fun. Morpheus provided the enlightenment and PHitchermen provided... well ... he provided the fun.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Morpheus and Phitchermen,
I forgot to thank you guys. You made this thread so much enlightening and fun. Morpheus provided the enlightenment and PHitchermen provided... well ... he provided the fun.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Phitchermen,
What's the big deal about answering your questions in public. There's noting personal about you. A violation of privacy, maybe, but a great public service, especially for those who don't know the culture at Bethel. This mild violation is well worth the results.
There... Call me an idiot, and an imbecile too.
http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/news/local/news/general/private-prosecution-gets-thrown-out-of-court/2468225.aspx?storypage=2private prosecution gets thrown out of court.
by louis nelson.
27 feb, 2012 01:00 am.
" 'publishers' were not representatives or volunteers of the Watchtower Society."
The meaning is along the lines of WT's deception-without-lying modus operandi.
Publisher are not really volunteers. Would you call someone a volunteer when he/she believes that not doing something means eternal death. JW's are subject to duress, to emotional coercion. Who would volunteer for the preaching if there were not threats of destruction?
the new testament specialist daniel wallace notes that although there are about 300,000 individual variations of the text of the new testament, this number is very misleading.
most of the differences are completely inconsequential--spelling errors, inverted phrases and the like.
a side by side comparison between the two main text families (the majority text and the modern critical text) shows agreement a full 98% of the time.[18].
i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..
i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..
I HAVE SEARCHED FOR A WATCHTOWER THAT CONTAINS ADVICE TO VICTIMS OF PEDOPHILES ALONG THE LINES OF "FORGIVE AND FORGET" THE PEDOPHILE.
I HAVE READ IT BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S IN MY HARD DRIVE, BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK FOR IT.
I DEMAND THAT ONE OF YOU IN THIS FORUM FIND IT FOR ME PRONTO OR ELSE.
10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?
95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.
the past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.
he had just moved to my area from another state.
he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.
Sorry, this is tangentially related.
I don't get it. To avoid disfellowshipping for a blood transfusion, what the "sinner" has to do is repent and show that he/she was under pressure. You would think that if God is willing to allow someone to die, is because the sin is very serious, and therefore requires a harsh and long punishment. But no, all you have to do is repent and show that you accepted blood transfusion under pressure. On the other hand, if you have sex out of marriage (nobody dies... usually), repentance is not enough, a long and humiliating process is expected.
If someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because
of being under extreme pressure, the committee
should obtain the facts and determine
the individual's attitude. If he is repentant, the
committee would provide spiritual assistance in
the spirit of Galatians 6:1 and Jude 22, 23. Since
he is spiritually weak, he would not qualify for
special privileges for a period of time, and it may
be necessary to remove certain basic privileges. (p. 111 Shepherd the Flock of God)
Punishment for very serious offense (blood transfusion):
nothing if you play the game well.
Punishment for most other offenses (deemed not as severe):
long humiliating process
humanity doesn't need to continue believing in hocus pocus pie in the sky religious hogwash and pipe dreams to have hope of everlasting life.
nor is it necessary to find the fountain of youth or turn off the aging process.. it's only a matter of time until science achieves it.
maybe not decades away, maybe not even centuries, but eventually..... ....mankind will achieve eternal life through a transplant of the human brain into a future highly advanced robotic body.. already the scientific fundmentals for it exist.
1914+120 years = 2034 (one year too low of target, 2035)
606 b.c.e. + 2520 years = 1915 c.e. (one year too high of target, 1914)
average score of the watchtower is 100% right